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charleyk  
#21 Posted : Monday, January 26, 2009 7:25:29 AM(UTC)
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Abbie, I get it to stop filling by moving the timer knob a little further in the cycle. Strange thing as I have said is that it works sometimes. Thanks for any help as were bout ready to give it up.
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#22 Posted : Monday, January 26, 2009 9:04:21 AM(UTC)
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Did you cut half an inch off the end of the tubing when you attached it to the new water level switch. If the hose is in good shape, this should ensure a good seal at the switch. It does not take much of an air leak and it can be intermittent. If the hose is stiff or has small what look like cracks running along it replace the hose.

Another possibility would be something floating around in the bottom of the tub and every once in a while it partially plugs the hose.
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charleyk  
#23 Posted : Monday, January 26, 2009 9:13:34 AM(UTC)
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Ill try cutting the hose as you suggest. Also, if there was something floating around how would I get to it?
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#24 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2009 10:09:46 AM(UTC)
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It is very possible that you have a small hole in that plastic hose. Go down to yor local hardware store, and bring the hose with you, and replace it. That has to be it. Because you replace the water level switch. The hose is cheap. Do it, and let us know. Tom ApplianceEducator.com
charleyk  
#25 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2009 12:27:35 PM(UTC)
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I'll do it. Just so you know I plugged on side and blew in the other and got what seemed to be full resistance, but I will try. Thanks so much for hanging in there.
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#26 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2009 12:51:19 PM(UTC)
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Good Luck. Tom ApplianceEducator.com
charleyk  
#27 Posted : Wednesday, January 28, 2009 4:29:36 AM(UTC)
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Thanks. I will change the hose tonight but I wanted to update you with something I noticed last night. During the wash cycle, the tub filled and shut off correctly. Then it went into the wash cycle but all of a sudden (after about 1 - 2 minutes in was wash cycle), the water started coming in again. I nudged the dial a little and it stopped again and finished the cycle. On the rinse cycle it reverted back to the old way of not stopping to fill. We also now are noticing that the clothes are not quite as dry as they used to be when the wash is done. Does this point to the timer or something else besides a hose/water level switch issue?

Thanks again.
denman  
#28 Posted : Wednesday, January 28, 2009 5:30:38 AM(UTC)
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"On the rinse cycle it reverted back to the old way of not stopping to fill."

Unless I have missed something in one of your earlier posts this is a new symptom. I thought the only problem you had was it overfills.

This is starting to look like a bad timer.
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charleyk  
#29 Posted : Wednesday, January 28, 2009 6:41:32 AM(UTC)
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What I meant by "not stopping to fill" was, it continued to fill. Sorry about the confusion. I'm so frustrated, I cant even explain it well anymore.

Do you know how the timer works in conjunction with the fill switch? If nudging the timer stops the water flow and it starts washing, Does that indicate a bad fill switch? What I don't understand is how these things work together.
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#30 Posted : Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:03:15 AM(UTC)
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I can understand your frustration, you have been fighting with this sucker for quite awhile.

Some of the below you probably know already but figured it wouldn't hurt to include it.

The water level switch has a Common connector for the Normally Open (NO) and Normally Closed (NC) contacts on a single switch.
When the air pressure in the tube becomes high enough the switch closes.
There is an air tight diaphragm in the level switch which moves back and forth to activate the switch.
So when you start a wash the NO contacts are open and the NC contacts are closed.
The NC contacts are connected to your water valve and a set of contacts in the timer puts power to the common connector of the level switch.
So the water valve is actuated and the washer begins to fill.
As the water rises in the tube, the air pressure in the tube increases until it is high enough to trip the switch.
Now the NC contacts open, stopping the water. The NO contacts close starting the agitator/motor and the timer motor.

This does get more complicated when you get into rinse cycles as timer contacts are used to redirect power as required but the basic fill is the same.

Trying to find wiring info on Kenmore's is difficult if not impossible unless you are a Kenmore tech and I do not have any.

I would replace the tubing. There is no guarantee that this will fix it but at least you will be able to eliminate it as a possible cause.
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