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stmech  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 8:59:10 PM(UTC)
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First time poster here, and read every thread pertaining to my problem, with no resolve. Here’s the issue: My wife turns on the dryer and here’s a “pop”. The dryer works fine but the timer will not advance, even in timed mode. So I decide (based on the threads here) to buy from APP the timer and the sensor/LED/Chimer board to be done with this. However, after looking up my dryer, there seems to be 3 different timers for this machine. So I call APP and give them my S/N ( 24238191ET, which indicates a series 24, made OCT 2004), and they tell me I need the timer AP4042974 (33002855). Fine. I received the timer today but there is a fourth row pin where my original didn’t have one. The S/L/C board shipped to me looks correct AP4044037, (33002905). So I called APP and they said I may need AP4042962 (33002808)and a new wiring harness 33002809. Confused, I called Maytag and they said I need timer AP4042973 (33002854) and wiring harness 33002755. I then went to another parts online store and they showed 5 different timers. WTF? After looking at a bunch of Maytag service upgrade docs (thanks to this web site) I see there was a separate sensor board and chime that was combined and required a new wiring harness, however this doc came out before my machine was made and I have the combined unit as well as the new harness doc that shows three contact rows for the timer, which I have. My harness now has a P/N of 63406940 and the wiring diagram taped on the machine’s console says 63406740 if that helps. Does anyone know what timer I have ( the maytag numbers on the original don’t seem to mean anything to anyone I talked to) and what the correct replacement is? This is driving me nuts. Thanks to anyone in advance.
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stmech  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 8:11:57 PM(UTC)
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OK, Just to follow up, today I called APP again and they said I need timer 33002808 AND wiring harness 33002809. But I've seen the 33002855 recommended to owners of the 23 series without a harness. This makes no sense to me. Gene, you out there? Thanks.
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 10:41:54 PM(UTC)
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OK, Just to follow up, today I called APP again and they said I need timer 33002808 AND wiring harness 33002809. But I've seen the 33002855 recommended to owners of the 23 series without a harness. This makes no sense to me. Gene, you out there? Thanks.


I really don't know the answer to your questions. I did look up your model no. at my parts supplier and any machine after series 19 should take part no. 33002855. I hope that helps.

This is one of the problems I always had with Maytag. Too many part numbers for virtually the same machine. Thank goodness Whirlpool bought them out. Oh and the other thing was putting numbers on parts that mean nothing. You just got to love the old Maytag.:rolleyes:
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#4 Posted : Thursday, August 5, 2010 8:36:24 AM(UTC)
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Thanks TG. I'm still hesitant to put it in since it has that fourth row pin.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, August 5, 2010 11:04:52 AM(UTC)
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Thanks TG. I'm still hesitant to put it in since it has that fourth row pin.


I don't blame you. Its a shame they haven't got some kind of instructions that tell what the difference is and what should be done to fix it.
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#6 Posted : Thursday, August 5, 2010 10:14:52 PM(UTC)
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So I thought I'd try a rudimentary procedure before installing this timer (33002855). I pulled off the knob and pointer off the original and put them on the new one. I then oriented it properly in front of the display, and turned the dial. Well, it has stops (clicks) that are in a different position then the original, although they were there for all the off stops. That combined with that extra pin somewhat convinced me that this is the wrong timer. I then read on this forum that someone said the wiring harness in his series 24 was actually a series 16. That does correspond to the timer APP is now recommending (33002808) So, I think I will give that timer a try without the "recommended" harness. Good plan? I have no idea. I'll let you know. BTW, The number of pins on the 33002808 seem to be correct, but I don't know the pinout.
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#7 Posted : Friday, August 6, 2010 2:57:43 AM(UTC)
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I was over at the Maytag archives and I found this.... http://servicematters.co...rary/docs/TDL-0033-S.pdf

Also there is more about your dryer. Just go here and enter your dryer model no. where it says "literature by model" http://servicematters.co..._library/html/index.html

I wish I could see this thing for myself. Its hard to imagine how its wired from what little I've seen. I hope this info helps.
stmech  
#8 Posted : Friday, August 6, 2010 8:00:05 AM(UTC)
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Thanks TG. I appreciate you taking the time. If you look at the first link you posted and scroll to the bottom where it shows the MDG8400 new timer connector, the pinout on mine is the exact same except I don't have the PK15 or BU 34 wires. Also, The chime connector is different because I have the newer combined sensor/chime/LED board. This connector looks like it might have been for the separate boards (see the doc 0040 which mentions the new combined board, and a new harness). Also I noticed that all these docs that pertain to changes are actually dated before my machine was made. So, the only conclusion I can come to is the timer is from a series 16 (33002808) and I already have the new harness(?). But still not 100 % positive.
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:27:35 PM(UTC)
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Wanted to wait a while before updating, to be sure. I received the 33002808 (series 16) timer last Friday. Same amount of pins on the connector and all the stops ( clicks) in the same place as the original. So, I put it in and lo and behold, it works! My wife has used it for six loads so far without any problems. The 33002855 was definitely wrong. I can't speak for anyone with a different series, but I hope this helps anyone with a MDG8400 dryer with a series 24. Also, I did not need to replace the wiring harness, as recommended. Thanks to TG for his help and APP for their great customer service and super fast shipping.
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, August 11, 2010 6:29:46 AM(UTC)
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I'm glad you got it fixed. This reminds me of when I have to get parts for my 1990 740 Volvo. About half its parts are actually 1989 parts. It was apparently built with whatever they had lying around at the time. I'm not complaining too much, it has 204,000 miles these days.:)
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