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michaellawre  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, July 9, 2014 3:57:20 PM(UTC)
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My Whirlpool Washer Ultimate Care ll 8 Cycle 5 Speed Combo, Quiet Wash Commercial Quality stopped draining, rinsing and spinning. I was told in a forum that the Timer Switch was bad, so I bought a new Timer Switch. The part# is FSP 3953321A.
I was told that this the same as the FSP #3953321. I sent for the new switch and there was no improvement so I returned it and tried another one. I am having exactly the same problem as before and am stumped. It also doesn't seem to work at all in 2 of the four washing modes.
Can anyone please tell me what I should check next? This has been a good washer, but I have already replaced the motor and now the timer switch. I am beginning to think that the timer is not the problem . It fills okay and agitates okay but does not pump out, spin or drain.
Please help! :mad:
Thank you!
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fairbank56  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, July 9, 2014 5:27:06 PM(UTC)
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Most likely a faulty lid switch. Lid switch only affects drain and spin functions.

Whirlpool 3949247 Lid Switch Assembly - AppliancePartsPros.com

Eric
michaellawre  
#3 Posted : Thursday, July 10, 2014 4:57:12 PM(UTC)
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Hi

I appreciate the thought, but after replacing the lid switch 3 times, I just eliminated it and bypassed it. The washer fills and agitates but will not drain, rinse or spin.

It has worked fine for about 5 years and then I had to replace the motor. Since then, it has worked properly until a week or two ago when it failed to drain, rinse and spin.

I checked the forums and was told it was definitely the Timer Switch so I bought one and it was no different. I sent it back and got another from a different company and it is exactly the same... It will fill and agitate but no draining, rinsing or spinning and instead of working in all four modes, it only seems to work in two modes of washing.

Do you have any other ideas?

Does anyone have a schematic that is clearer than the one that came with the washer? It is torn and much of it is missing making it very difficult to understand.

Thank you for your help!
Michael
fairbank56  
#4 Posted : Thursday, July 10, 2014 5:22:30 PM(UTC)
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Does the drive motor make any noise at all when timer is set to spin? If it hums but won't run, may be something jamming the pump. Try pulling pump from motor (leave hoses connected) and try spin. Does timer advance on it's own when set to spin? If not, were back to lid switch problem (possible lid switch wiring) or timer. Not unheard of to get a bad "new" timer. Here is your parts manual and wiring diagram.

Eric

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michaellawre  
#5 Posted : Thursday, July 10, 2014 8:46:05 PM(UTC)
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Eric,

Thanks for the quick reply and the diagram and schematic!

It is just dead quiet! No sounds except the timer turning. No humming, just dead silence...

Sometimes I hear the timer turning inside but not always... and usually no sound at all when in the drain, rinse or spin positions.
Of course there is water in the tub because it won't drain, but when the agitator kicks in, it really works strong ~ maybe its because the clothes are out?

I am on the 3rd Timer Switch and each one has worked exactly the same way. I still have the original one in case there is nothing wrong with it ~ Is there any way to test it?

I think you can take the lid switch out of the equation because after replacing it 3 times, I bypassed it ~ It is gone.

Thanks for your help!
Michael
fairbank56  
#6 Posted : Friday, July 11, 2014 5:39:35 AM(UTC)
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The problem is either the timer or lid switch wiring. Power to timer is via lid switch during drain/spin. Trace the wires from the lid switch connector to the timer. Look for any kinks or bad spots in those wires. Pull wires at timer connector to make sure they are solidly connected. Visually check timer connector terminals for any corrosion/burning/melting of wires or wire insulation. Motor uses same windings for drain/spin as it does for agitation. Only difference is polarity to start winding is reversed so that motor starts in opposite direction. This is done within the timer. While in drain/spin setting, if there is no noise from timer and it does not advance on it's own, then it's not getting power which is via lid switch wiring. You must have it jumped out properly and the wires from connector to timer must be intact.

Eric
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#7 Posted : Friday, July 11, 2014 5:46:27 AM(UTC)
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I will go back and check the bypass. Maybe it may have been jostled around and have been affected by an unbalance load.

I'll let you know what I find...

Thanks again!
M
michaellawre  
#8 Posted : Monday, July 14, 2014 4:45:58 AM(UTC)
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I bow to the Master!

I checked the lid switch bypass and my connection was good. I decided to take the cabinet off to put in a jumper in place of my wired connection and discovered that the plug had pulled apart.

Not sure how that happened as I had not taken the cabinet apart before... I guess it wasn't clipped securely so I wrapped it with electrical tape and it works perfectly!

Now I get to return the Timer Switch I bought!

THANKS for all of your help!
Michael
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