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mjcrowns  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, April 15, 2009 11:24:19 AM(UTC)
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The vanes in the drum of the washer have broken. I need to replace them, but am having trouble removing them. They have tabs that appear to slide into slots and then the vane is slid into position. However, the old ones don't seem to want to budge. Do I need to disassemble the drum to get these bad boys out, or is there a simple approach that I am missing? If I need to take the machine apart, is there a manual or guide somewhere that will lead me through the process?

Thanks.
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sidfink43  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, April 15, 2009 3:23:55 PM(UTC)
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This is not an easy question, because I doubt if anyone, (including myself,) answering on this forum has ever removed the vanes on that model, and there are at least two different types of Frigidaire front loading washers that have different methods for removing the vanes. Since no one else has answered you I wanted to take a crack at it.

One type of washer has vanes that can be removed without removing the spin tub. It appears you have the other type that does require removing the spin tub to remove two of the three vanes. Go figure.

For your model two of the vanes are secured by a screw and tab bent into the basket. According to Frigidaire these are the ones that require you to remove the spin basket.

A third vane is secured only by a screw and it appears that vane is located on the seam of the basket. If you unscrew that vane, slide it forward and then pull up you should be able to take it out through the door.

Now since you are replacing all three vanes which apparently are already damaged, it may be that you can get the other two out without taking off the tub out by brute force, being careful not to damage the tub or any other part of the washer in the process. If it is then possible to screw/snap the replacement vanes in without harming them, then you may be able to do this job without taking out the spin basket. I cannot advise you on this, maybe another tech reading this has some thoughts.

Can we ask what caused the vanes to break?

Good luck, and let us know how it turns out.
mjcrowns  
#3 Posted : Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:36:39 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for the advice.

One of the vanes had already detached itself from the drum. All three tabs on one side of the vane had snapped off somehow, and as a result, the remainder of the vane popped loose.

The other two vanes have holes punched through them that tend to collect loose change. My wife seems to think that this may have been caused by running a belt through the wash with the buckle thrashing wildly inside the drum, although it could have been coins, cell-phones, iPods or other items that were inconveniently laundered.

Although each vane has a hole on the base on one side, there were no screws to be found. The slots in the basket where the departed vane resided are somewhat bent out of shape, but a bit of properly applied force should remedy this. There are four bent tabs at the center of the vane location, and I believe these are what hold the vane in place (along with the six tabs on the vanes themselves.)

One of the two remaining vanes has three of the six tabs broken, two on the same end and one in the middle. By lifting up on the end with the broken tabs, I was able to clear the center "snap-in" tabs on the basket and slide the vane out.

The remaining vane (ironically the one at the seam of the basket) seems to have all of its tabs intact, so is being a bit more difficult to remove. I am thinking that I might be able to slice and dice it enough to bring it out in pieces to avoid any drum damage.

Thank you again. Your reply helped immensely. I'm not sure I would have taken the rough-handed approach on removal without your sage advice.
sidfink43  
#4 Posted : Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:45:43 PM(UTC)
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Well, ironic that the one on the seam is giving you trouble.

I think we are all curious to know if you can get the new ones installed without having to take out the spin basket. Frigidaire says to put one screw in each vane when you put in the replacements, and to go to the other side of the vane if the hole is stripped.

Good luck, and let us know how it turns out.
mjcrowns  
#5 Posted : Friday, April 17, 2009 11:26:25 AM(UTC)
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Success!!!

I got the replacements today, and each vane kit included the vane plus the stainless steel screw to hold it in place, and... replacement instructions!!! :)

For removal, use a small screwdriver to push open the locking tabs that are located at the center of the base by inserting the screwdriver through the center hole in the top of the vane. The vane then slides (with some effort) to the front of the washer where its tabs can then be popped (with some effort) out of the slots. Ah, but to have known this yesterday... However, a saws-all is not just for breakfast anymore;) , and proves to be quite useful in removing damaged parts, when used with tender care and lots of caution.

My first attempt at reinstallation encountered those pesky locking tabs hindering my efforts to get the vane tabs correctly into their respective slots. The solution to this problem was to simply bend the locking tabs (part of the basket) down to or below the surface level of the basket. A quick spin of the basket confirmed that they did not come into apparent contact with anything. The vanes, themselves, needed to be squeezed at their base where each pair of tabs are in order to allow the tabs to seat properly within their slots. The vane is then pushed back into position. I needed to rig up a bit of a prying bar to get them started, taking care not to damage the rim of the basket in the process, but once they started to slide, they slid into position quite handily. A quick check that the screw holes lined up and a minor tweaking adjustment and everything was "go". The stainless steel screw and its associated predrilled holes require self-tapping, so some elbow grease is needed to get them started. Although a phillips driver would work, a number 2 square head drive will help ensure that the screw heads aren't stripped in this process. I only had one hole that didn't want to tap, but pulling the vane back out and reversing it did the trick, as the secondary hole, on the opposing side worked fine.

If I were to do it again, I would only replace one vane at a time. Having all of the vanes removed made it difficult to keep the basket from spinning while trying to get the new vanes in place.

Thanks again for the help. Not sure I would have tackled this otherwise.
sidfink43  
#6 Posted : Friday, April 17, 2009 12:13:27 PM(UTC)
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Great, glad it worked out and thanks for the detailed response. Now if you just keep those cell phones and iPods out of the wash everything should be ok.

Again, thanks for sharing. I doubt if this issue will come up much but your description will be a big help if it does.
Cassel  
#7 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2016 5:17:04 PM(UTC)
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Upon first inspection my washer had NO screws holding in the vane that was broken so I skipped the step removing the screw and the new vane did NOT have a replacement screw. You will find it is in so tight it does not need a screw.

In one of the holes on TOP of the vane, not the screw hole, twist and turn a Philips screwdriver into one of the holes toward the front of the vane leaving room to tap it with a rubber mallet. Do not insert the screw driver far enough to scratch the tub. Hold the top of the screwdriver and tap the screw driver with the rubber mallet toward the front of the machine. It took only a few taps to slide it forward enough that it just lifts out.

You can pull all you want by hand but my guess is you will most likely not break it loose.

Installing the new vane is quite easy. Insert the vane into the larger part of the openings, make sure it is all the way down against the tub so the tabs are as close as possible and tap LIGHTLY with the rubber mallet. (NO screwdriver in this step). Be sure to hold the vane down while tapping it into place to ensure the tabs are tightly secured.

If you choose then you can secure it with a screw. (If provided)

5 Minute project.

Part was $11.00

This was on the Frigidaire Affinity front load model.

By the way out of the 6 Frigidaire appliances I have the only that has not needed repair within three years is the microwave.
awroberts  
#8 Posted : Saturday, May 21, 2016 2:16:34 PM(UTC)
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I had no luck removing our vane in spite of all the helpful posts. The mystery of how to release the locking tabs eluded me. I finally cut the vane off with a Dremel tool, and am attaching two pictures in hope they'll help in the future. One pic of the tabs in the up position, and one of them flattened out in preparation for installing the new vane.

I don't believe I would have been able to flatten the tabs using a screwdriver as suggested. The limited angle of attack allowed by inserting the screwdriver in the top hole and the force required to do so, working blind, would have been very difficult.

With the Dremel the vane was off in under two minutes. That's the way to go in my book.
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